Vaccine may increase risk of serious neurological condition

AZ vaccine could cause a rise in rare condition

AZ Vaccine, which may increase risk of serious neurological condition

The Telegraph reports that scientists believe the Astra Zeneca vaccines’ Trojan horse delivery system could be causing a rise in Guillain-Barré syndrome cases

The AstraZeneca vaccine may increase the risk of the serious neurological condition Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) with the jab’s Trojan horse delivery system possibly to blame, scientists believe, in a discovery which may apply to similar vaccines.

GBS is a rare condition which causes muscle numbness and pain, and can hinder movement, walking, swallowing and, sometimes, even breathing.

It is commonly caused by the gastroenteritis bug Campylobacter, which has a surface coating which looks slightly human, and so can sometimes trigger the body to attack its own nerves instead of invading germs, leading to GBS.

Now, scientists at University College London (UCL) have found a rise in cases of GBS in the first two to four weeks after the AstraZeneca jab, but not in other vaccines, such as Pfizer or Moderna.

Like many vaccines, the Oxford jab uses a weakened chimp adenovirus to deliver the coronavirus spike protein into the body, and scientists have speculated that a reaction to adenovirus may be responsible for the rise in cases.

Adenovirus usually causes the common cold, but scientists are starting to think it may also mimic human cells in a similar way to Campylobacter, confusing the immune system into attacking the body.

Full story here.

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67 thoughts on “Vaccine may increase risk of serious neurological condition”

  1. We tried to warn people against these posion covid vaccines? They did not listen they even made there children have them it’s the work of the devil god help people the children especially.

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  2. Nobody has been given an AS jab in a long while. While other countries dithered the UK got this vaccination out to the population in record time and it made a huge difference. Now Pfizer or Moderna vaccines are used as boosters. I had the 2 AS jabs and a Pfizer booster and are pleased to say they did the job.

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  3. 1. This is old news, first reported elsewhere several days ago.
    2. Before I make my next point I will stress tbat I’ve had all the jabs myself (two AZ and one Moderna). But I’d think carefully before any more.
    3. Perhaps the several contributors to discussions on here would like to apologise to those they criticised who were warning about the potential dangers of the vaccines, implying that those who were posting their concerns were nutters, conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, selfish, irresponsible and dangerous people etc etc.

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    • Tell us about the dangers of non-vaccination please.

      If you can’t, I still stand by the last part of your post “were nutters, conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, selfish, irresponsible and dangerous people etc etc.”

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      • The dangers of non-vaccination are minimal for the vast majority of healthy people, as covid is a mild disease for most people (as the UK government said at the start of all this). There may be a case for the dangers of non-vaccination being greater for the frail elderly and the immunosuppressed (the balance of risk would be more in favour of vaccination). Remember that the UK government’s original intention was only to give the vaccine to the elderly and clinically vulnerable. Then the goalposts were moved. The great scandal, as mentioned above, is the vaccination of children, for whom covid is a non-event, and for whom the vaccine was never originally intended, nor tested. The body of evidence mounts that the risk balance was criminally misjudged for children, with the likelihood of vaccine damage far greater than the likelihood of benefit. Never before have children been given a vaccine largely supposedly to protect the elderly.

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        • “The dangers of non-vaccination are minimal for the vast majority of healthy people…”. Tell that to the estimated 1.3m to 2m people suffering from Long Covid.

          “children, for whom covid is a non-event…”. Not for those who have Long Covid.

          I am no fan of the AZ vaccine as I had not just an acute adverse reaction to it, but suffered long term from various adverse effects. However, with both myself and my husband having underlying health conditions that would have made us very vulnerable to serious illness and either death or long term debilitation, so the dangers of not having the vaccine far outweighed those of having it.

          This is why, despite being very dubious, I chose to have the third vaccination. Fortunately this was the Pfizer vaccine and it didn’t cause any of the same adverse reactions.

          I can’t remember your posts, specifically, but many who decried the vaccine on here clearly were conspiracy theorists. They made that very clear in their posts.

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          • Caroline: recently published research showed that the most likely precursor to a diagnosis (sometimes a self-diagnosis) of long covid was a diagnosed mental illness, particularly anxiety disorder.

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            • That is an appalling thing to suggest and totally untrue. It is well known that the vast majority of people who develop ME/CFS, of which Long Covid is undoubtedly a strain, are very active people. People who are always on the go, rarely stopping.

              Research has also shown that the vast majority of those who develop Long Covid, either never rested properly, never convalesced and/or went back to work too quickly.

              I have never seen or heard of the “recently published research” but, if it exists, it is probably published by the psychiatrists (or their ilk) who for years forced patients to undertake “therapies” and “treatments” that actually made them worse, such as Graded Exercise Therapy. “Therapies” and “Treatments” that have now been thoroughly discredited by NICE and all but banned.

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              • Caroline: I fail to understand why “that is an appalling thing to suggest”. At no point in my post have I denied the existence of long covid, nor have I suggested that long covid is a mental illness, and at no point have I belittled mental ill-health or those who suffer with it. It seems to me that you are the one who has the problem with paychological difficulties as you seem to think that if someone suggests that a person might have a mental illness then that person is being insulted. It is common knowledge that there is a link between psychological difficulties and physical illnesses: most of us know that stress will make eczema or psoriasis worse; well-meant advice is often given about calming down to avoid giving oneself a heart attack. There are countless examples of psychological triggers to physical illnesses, which makes those illnesses no less real or painful.

                You seem to suggest that ME/CFS and long covid are related. I don’t know where you get that idea from.

                As you have done in our previous discussions, you seem to think I make up the research I quote. I’m sure readers here do not want lengthy posts full of academic references, but, as you doubt me, here is the original research (hyperlinks are not accepted on this forum):
                acpjournalsdotorg/doi/10dot7326/M21-4905
                And here is a summary:
                boriquagatodotsubstackdotcom/p/the-long-and-short-of-long-covid

                You don’t approve of psychiatrists and you assume the research, “if it exists”, was done by psychiatrists. No, it was carried out by a multi-discilplinary team of several specialties, the leader being from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Maryland, USA. Perhaps you’d like to tell them that their carefully conducted research is “an appalling thing to suggest”. To be clear, you are saying that it is “totally untrue” that anxiety disorder is the most common condition that predicts the inset of long covid, and that the research is wrong.

                I will add no more comments to this forum. Enough has been said on this post by me.

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                • You have either misread or misunderstood my post. You clearly do not understand either ME/CFS or Long Covid.

                  I fully acknowledge that psychiatric illness can cause physical illness and vice versa and I am not against psychiatrists per sé. They have their place and do some good work in the appropriate spheres. What I and thousands of ME/CFS sufferers are against are the psychiatrists who have maintained that ME/CFS is caused by “abnormal illness beliefs.”. They have dominated this field for decades and made a very nice living out of it.

                  However, the PACE trial that they undertook to “prove” that they were correct and everyone else, including the patients, were wrong, was totally discredited, not least because they changed criteria part way through the trial, to ensure their “findings” were the ones they wanted. The latest NICE Guidelines have now made clear that their two “treatments” for the condition, i.e. GET and CBT are not cures, that CBT may help some patients to manage their symptoms and that GET “should not be undertaken” as it has been found to exacerbate the condition.

                  The psychiatrists’ domination of this field for so long has prevented research into the physical aspects of the condition. That is why it is such an appalling thing to say that mental illness is a precursor. Finally, money is being put into proper and effective research. The last thing that is needed for sufferers is to go backwards.

                  As for the fact that ME/CFS and Long Covid are related, that is well recognised by practitioners who have dealt with sufferers of the former for many years and are now being called in to help sufferers of the latter.

                  Unfortunately your two links didn’t lead to where you said they would lead to. One was untraceable by Google and the other led to a website with articles about mask wearing!

                  You clearly have just read one article and have not read around the conditions, spoken with any practitioners, e.g. ME/CFS teams in the NHS, or had any experience of the diseases yourself. I have done all three!! If you do likewise you will then begin to get a proper picture of the conditions, of which one is categorised by the WHO as as neurological condition.

                  And yes, I would be very happy to tell the people who have done this “research” that they are wrong – and so would a significant number of patients and practitioners who have practical experience and expertise.

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                  • Caroline: the links work. I just tested them. As I explained, if hyperlinks are put in posts here the post will not upload. So in the links I gave I put the word “dot” wherever there was a dot in the web address. I thought that would be obvious to readers when I wrote that hyperlinks can’t be used.

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                    • Thank you. No, it was not obvious because I have a life and didn’t bother to look at every detail of the hyperlink!

                      I have just scanned through the “summary”, which is written by someone calling themselves “el gato malo” and using the heading “bad cattitude”! They are completely anonymous and don’t use capital letters for anything! Hardly professional. They, and indeed, the comments below show that they are already cynical and scathing about the condition and ME/CFS.

                      As for the actual “research” this states the objective: “To characterize medical sequelae and persistent symptoms.”. Why? It’s well documented what the symptoms are!! Then they come to the conclusion: “The pathogenesis of PASC remains unclear and requires further study.”. Well, that was a really useful study, wasn’t it?!

                      Interestingly, along the way they “discover” that risk factors are being female and “self-reported history of anxiety disorder”. And from that “bad cattitude” has decided that this is not a real condition, but just some women getting overly anxious!

                      Like I said, go read around the subject. Go read up on the numerous other studies that have been done on ME/CFS. You will then understand how shallow and meaningless this study is!

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          • For long COVID, read post viral fatigue syndrome, a well known and temporary condition affecting people who have recently had a viral illness. Of course describing it as Long COVID is far more dramatic and fashionable and may even result in a nice compensation payment down the line.

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            • True some post viral fatigue illness are, thankfully, temporary. Sadly ME/CFS is not, generally, one of them. Long Covid is undoubtedly a form of ME/CFS and bodies dealing with the latter are liaising with those dealing with the former, so that both can benefit for experience, information and research.

              It is a pity that people who mock and belittle the conditions can’t experience it for themselves for even a few months or, at the very least, care for someone with the condition. You would soon come to realise that these are not conditions that anyone would want to pretend to have.

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              • Perhaps those who have given what I said thumbs down and given thumbs up to the idea that Long Covid is a mental illness and/or suffered by people wanting compensation could detail what expertise and experience they have of either CFS or Long Covid?

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              • I have had COVID fairly recently whilst on holiday in mainland Portugal and guess what? I experienced a dose of post viral fatigue syndrome. Unpleasant yes, although being realistic about my recovery helped. Resting periodically, building up activity gradually. Bed early if not feeling 100%. Not spending any energy on fictitious Long COVID myths certainly helped. Now pretty much recovered give or take a “tired” day.

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                • I’m very pleased for you. I had ‘flu badly about 20 years ago, followed by post viral fatigue, for a couple of months, so I know precisely what you mean.

                  However, you appear to be equating PVFS with LC. The two are not the same. How about you reading around the subject, talking to patients and practitioners, so that you fully understand the conditions? Then you can speak with more knowledge and authority, rather than one incident in your own life?

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                  • Caroline, you make up your own criteria of authority as you go along. If I said I had done a PhD on the subject you would undoubtedly dispute my research methods. Obsession is a precursor to many invented Illnesses. If you think you have it and are suffering, you have it and are suffering. A positive mindset will get you out of it for sure.

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                    • Ah, but you haven’t done a PhD on the subject, have you? Neither have you extensive experience, research, etc. These are extensively recognised as criteria of knowledge and expertise.

                      Not one personal experience, a closed mind and a conviction that you, therefore, must be right.

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  4. For all those people who are anti covid vaccinations are you anti all vaccinations or just covid? If you have children do you refuse to allow them to have the recommended childhood jabs such as; Hib, mmr, Menb, flu, the 4-in-one (diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio) etc?

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    • The vast majority of people who are anti covid vaccinations, in my experience, are very much in favour of other vaccines, both for themselves and their children. They are not “anti-vaxxers”; they are anti-covid vaxxers” or, in some countries, anti-compulsion.

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      • I think you’ll find the vast majority of people, including me, are anti compulsion.

        Those who have been shouting the loudest about anti Covid Vaccine have generally been anti all vaccines and often disbelievers in Covid, or at the very least the severity of Covid itself.

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  5. Seriously,

    You can of course count me in as a conspiracy theorist, nutter etc etc
    What is plain to see however is the mounting evidence of post vaccine damage at the cellular level.

    You CANNOT stop a mutating virus with a vaccine, the vaccine developers would have to iterate every potential mutation into a booster and of course give said booster to every human being simultaneously

    You can of course confirm all of this VERY basic medical science with any pathologist
    Everyone who accepted the propaganda and allowed the fear mongering to force their compliance is fucked, simple

    You can self reinforce as much as you like, it is human nature to do so but sooner or later you WILL join the ranks of us nutters

    “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”
    (Mahatma Gandhi)

    Every single parent who allowed their children to be jabbed with the Sars-Cov2 MRNA vaccine have most probably doomed their children to a life of ill health if not worse

    The shit is yet to hit the fan, It is as simple as that

    Have a great day

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  6. Now now children, calm down or your blood pressures will go through the roof!

    There are bigger things to worry about than the side effects of the AZ vaccine such as the psychopath Putin launching nuclear weapons for example. No vaccine for radiation poisoning!

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    • But but but…….

      Didn’t you (Nutty Joe) say that everything was calm in Ukraine? You claimed this was based on your personal information!

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      • Carry on with your childish slurs, it puts you in a good light Mr Hardy

        The majority of the Ukraine is indeed calm, still trying to spin doom and gloom?
        Next you will be joining Maurice under the table

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          • You should really change your name to laurel + hardy although that would be doing a disservice to their memory
            Your attempts to divide and conquer will not work, Susan is an extremely intelligent person well above your pay grade

            Feel free to continue living under your bridge, your jibes flow like water off a ducks back

            Maybe the site Admin should penalise you for a bit, how about that?

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            • @Joe Lucas: Thanks, I’m certainly not falling for Hardly’s Kindergarten tactics and baby tantrums.

              Most people are incapable of connecting the dots. No idea it’s nature or nurture, but way it goes.

              The Cow-Weed, the Jabbas, the mask muzzles, the SOCIAL distancing (note, it’s SOCIAL, not physical!), the isolation, the psychologically engineered compliance, the mandates, the travel and movement restrictions, the adverse reactions, the Monkey Hoax, the Donkey Pokes, the Ukraine war, the constant fear-mongering, the constant increase in fuel prices and other consumer goods, the various media circuses of the Elon Musk and Johnny Depp variety and the bullshit pseudo-differences between the left wing and the right wing, the world’s leading (UN-elected, not that it changes anything) psychopaths meeting in Davos to “re-imagine” the world that they themselves are destroying, etc, etc, etc… All those are part of the same agenda. And we’re only getting started.

              It’s not my intention to spread doom and gloom, but just… open your fucking eyes and see what’s happening here, for god’s sake!

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              • PS: This blog always shows me “Solidarity with Ukraine” on every post. Why isn’t there an option of “Solidarity with Russia”? Why isn’t there an option of “Solidarity with Human Lives Everywhere”, no matter their nationalities? Why isn’t there an option of “Neutrality”?

                I’ll tell you why, because that’s how your precious “democracies” work. You only have the ILLUSION of choice. But it’s all been ALREADY pre-chosen for you.

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                • This site doesn’t belong to you. It has the freedom to choose what caused it aligns itself with.

                  You have the freedom to choose to disassociate yourself from this page and, indeed, any other site that shows affinity for a cause you don’t agree with.

                  These freedoms are real. They are no illusion.

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                  • All corporate “news” sites are aligned with the same agenda(s). Your “freedoms” are imaginary, especially as they can be taken away in an instant, as the past two years have shown. No one can “give” you your freedom. You have to take it and you have to own it, along with the responsibility that comes with it. Until this happens, the corporate nanny states will keep treating everyone like children.

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                    • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”
                      (Benjamin Franklin)

                      Fear is the mind killer, our survival instinct is driven by this easily manipulated emotion. Our greatest fear is that of scarcity, be it food, water or survival

                      We live in bountiful times and have the farming technology to feed the entire human population many times over

                      Susan, we shall not go quietly into the night, the dark days will NOT return as we, the open minded beings grow in number and purpose

                      He/She who controls the money controls the people, this is in the process of being obliterated by our new world currency – Bitcoin

                      We are becoming our own Banks slowly but surely, there is no stopping it now… Satoshi the new world currency

                      If NO one controls the money then NO one controls the people

                      Kick back and relax, we are persistent

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                    • @Joe Lucas: My husband and I got into BTC and several privacy coins when they were much “cheaper”, and these days we almost don’t use the banks at all, except for small change… BTC is not perfect, but certainly beats the hell out of CB fiat.

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                    • @Caroline: You seem to want me silenced so badly… Perhaps I’m the thorn in your fake narrative and it makes you extremely uncomfortable, having to live with all this cognitive dissonance? But no worries, it’s nothing another booster jab won’t fix.

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    • WoooooW.

      This is exactly as relevant as “John Hardy broke a front tooth after biting an apple”.

      But the sheeple continue eating apples. Unbelievable!

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  7. @Caroline: You seem to want me silenced so badly… Perhaps I’m the thorn in your fake narrative and it makes you extremely uncomfortable, having to live with all this cognitive dissonance? But no worries, it’s nothing another booster jab won’t fix.

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